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anything that speaker boehner said make you optimistic? was it just that urgency that you're talking about? >> well, it's the urgency, but i think the spirit at the table was one of everybody wants to make the best effort to get this done. hopefully that is possible. hopefully it is possible by the middle of december so the confidence of the markets and, most importantly, the confidence of the consumers returns to infuse our economy with demand, which creates jobs. >> you said afterwards there would be these milestones of success. how will that work? what are the goals? are there interim goals? >> well, my suggestion was that we at some point, not necessarily today, decide on what our goal is in terms of the amount of deficit reduction that we can achieve, some date by which we'd like to do it, the middle of december so this doesn't take us up to christmas, some milestones along the way so progress can be demonstrated we're moving in a forward direction. >> i spoke to senator michael bennet of colorado earlier this week. he said this really comes down to speaker boehner and president obama
meeting with t thedent obama abou cliff.s financial fiscal john boehner and nancy pelosi congress and the president can come together. the big issue remains, taxes. how to pay foron such a deal. >> i believe the framework i meetinglined at our consistent with the for a fair andl balanced approach. >> we understand our responsibility. it has to be about cuts, it has to be about revenue. be about growth. it has to be about the future. deal is not reached 1, automatic spending cuts and higher taxes for the board will go into effect. bob mcdonnell is asking the l government to help in of superstores sandy. fema to provide assistance in 25 virginia counties. the program reimburses state and would debrisents removal and other costs. also asked for federal assistance for suffered the most -- and extensive damage. of hours, the future of rush hour driving in northern is going to change with of hot plains. drivers will have to pay to use these planes. -- lanes. >> you can see by this sign entrance tot the still sayslanes closed. hours, it will be open. here is what people need to know. nee
boehner is even interested in? >> i think it is probably something that he might consider. this is how negotiations work. congressional "fight club." they stake out their positions and sort of move closer together as they come together and actually meet and discuss this. there are couple options what they can do on the table. president signaled perhaps it doesn't have to be all about getting rates to clinton era levels. perhaps getting revenue from other places. i think that would be healthier, broader tax reform kind of deal made. i'm not sure whether they're all savvy enough to make that deal. i mean. martha: seems to me that is the major issue here. that is what john boehner was hinting at. he is suggesting that if you remove some of the loopholes that is a tax increase on the wealthy in this country. i feel like that is a message that has gotten across in perhaps a clear enough way. if you do same thing for u.s. corporations and roof move tax loopholes and don't end up in a situation where ge doesn't pay anything and small business pays through the nose. why isn't that kind of refo
isn't serious. it's a joke. a joke. >> house speaker john boehner has been far milder in this rhetoric. according to politico, some house republicans might consider a tax hike on millionaires. many republican lawmakers privately concede that the 2012 election left them far short of a mandate on taxes. and if urged by democrats to raise rates on the megawealthy, they will have a tough time resisting. for the record, president obama's position sounds much more in line with senator sanders' way of thinking. >> there are some tough things that have to be done, but there's a way of doing this that does not hurt middle class families, that does not hurt our seniors, doesn't hurt families with disabled kids. >> let's bring in ruth conif, political editor for the progressive magazine. also with us tonight, e.j. dionne, msnbc contributor, "washington post" columnist and author of the book "our divided political heart." great to have both of you with us tonight. ruth, you first. you know, this could set up to be a moment of real disappointment for liberals if the democrats can't close the deal.
republicano boehner ha dicho que esta dispuesto a hablar del tema, y esta semana el congresista republicano raul labrador, indico que su partido debe encontrar 1 consenso conservador sobre inmigracion y asi no perder el voto hispano. 1 activista migratorio dice que en 25 anos no ha visto 1 ambiente tan favorable a 1 reforma. frank sharry, america's voice la verdad es que es la primera vez que he visto las condiciones tan positivas. no puedo recordar tantos republicanos diciendo que tenemos que cambiar." standup: fernando pizarro, washington d.c. concretamente cualquier proyecto migratorio debera esperar hasta que asuman los nuevos congresistas y senadoes en enero proximo. desde el capitolio en washington, fernando pizarro, univision." dos audiencias publicas se llevaran a cabo en el distrito de columbia sobre los planes de cerrar 20 planteles escolares... la primera se efectuara manana jueves, entre las 4-de la tarde y 8-de la noche, y la segunda el proximo lunes de 2- a 6-de la tarde... el departamento de trabajo multiplica sus esfuerzos para ayudar a ex-combatientes a encontrar empleos y
of the house and senate to work over thanksgiving to find a solution. >> tomorrow is speaker boehner's birthday. we are not going to embarrass him with a cake because we did know how many candles were needed. >> right. [laughter] >> we do want to wish him a happy birthday. thank you. >> after the meeting, leaders encouraged that they will agreement. democrats and republicans called productive. >> we are hearing from the of the little girl whose production prompted amber alert overnight. the jobless around this morning her parents fled their homes in southern virginia. -- the child was found this after her parents fled virginia. in southern >> early this morning, a ups spotted the vehicle used in the abduction. driver called 911 and .ollowed the car inside the car was the little girl's father. the girl was down a short time later in maryland. >> i am ok. >> there she is, safe and sound family in prince george's county. had no idea police say s -- the child had no idea police say her parents took members inher family staying where she was night. the parents left last after the court told them o t
in front of us today. >> president obama and speaker boehner sounding upbeat friday about prospects for cutting a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. we are back with the panel. after the congressional leaders and the president met at the white house on friday the rhetoric was reassuring. the question is is it real? do you get the sense, bob, that really do see or are beginning to see a path to a compromise are they they just trying to calm nervous investors because the stock market is going down a thousand points? >> everyone is nervous about this. this is kind of the last chance. the next six weeks could be six weeks that shook the united states if they don't fix this. there clearly is a new mood, but the way they are going to solve this is kind of hostage exchange. in other words, the republicans are determined not to let tax rates go up. the president is determined or is determined to get more revenue. and it's possible to do this. the president is going along, it seems, with some idea of entitlement reform that we are going to actually cut spending. but this is, you know, they are
uncertainty despite the president's comments and john boehner's comments. cheryl: we're looking at what we've been seeing over the last couple of months and you are saying kind of be prepared for that. a lot of the guests have come on and said you know, there's problems with earnings, but also you can't ignore that spike to the down side after the election. what did you make of all of that last week? what did you read into that? >> well, i mean, heading into the election, there was a lot of sentiment that the the market, the financial markets would have preferred a republican winner. cheryl: sure. fiscally more responsible if their view. -- in their view. >> correct. there's a few there's a lot of financial regulation presently and more to come. a lot of that at least from professional investors is probably where they were on wednesday. cheryl: they were waiting to see. >> i think that's going to settle off. i don't think you will see 300 point swings. you might see back again -- i'm quoting that period of july and august 2011, you could see 100, 150 on any given day, maybe a little bit ou
a split and one of the interesting ways you can follow it has to do with what -- john boehner versus paul ryan. boehner is pushing for conference shame, republican congresswoman rogers while ryan is pushing tom price who used to run the conservative caucus in the house. if most of the caucus is getting behind them then it's a sign they'll dig in their heels. if they're going with boehner, it's a sign they'll deal. >> i want to bring in a democrat on both the armed services committee and select committee on intelligence and the fiscal cliff if i might. do you think the republicans will come to play? >> i believe that they will. it's my hope that everyone has gotten the message loud and clear that the american people expect us to compromise, democrats and republicans coming together to solve the fiscal cliff issue but in a balanced way and that is certainly what president obama has campaigned on protecting a strong middle class, allowing the tax cuts to expire above $250,000, but we can't be afraid to compromise but we can do that without compromising our principles. >> is part of this deal
john boehner and house minority leader nancy pelosi will be there and others at any moment to talk about the fiscal cliff. the president spoke to labor leaders and business executives earlier in the week. it's a busy day in washington, d.c. we'll have more on all of this we'll have more on all of this coming up. diarrhea, gas, bloating? yeah. one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against these digestive issues with three strains of good bacteria. approved! [ phillips' lady ] live the regular life. phillips'. i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it could save you thousands in out-of-pocket costs. call now to request your free decision guid
for the country when it comes to fiscal cliff. >> glor: house speaker john boehner held a conference call with his members telling them compromise was needed. obama senior advisor david axelrod called boehner's comments to members encouraging. >> i think there are a lot of ways to skin this cat so long as everybody comes with a positive, constructive attitude toward the task. >> glor: if the automatic spending cuts happen, exactly 50% of the board without fall on the pentagon. national security correspondent david martin lays out what that would mean. e> reporter: the dreaded sequestration would double the $500 billion in cuts the pentagon is already planning to make over the next decade. defense secretary panetta has not minced words about what that would mean. >> if a sequestration is allowed to go into effect it will be a disaster for national defense. >> reporter: according to panetta the new american strategy of pivoting away from the wars in iraq and afghanistan toward the pacific and an emerging chinese superpower would come undone. >> all of that can go to hell if this congress doesn't fac
and that might help things a little bit in terms of the negotiation. i would love to see how the obama-boehner golf game part two might go because boehner now has to make a choice. he has a alaska, and he is kind of a deal maker by natural inclination. he has to figure out what his 230-some-odd members took away from this election. how many of relexingtonned tea party type members feel they were sent to washington because they refused to comexprms how many are available for the new kind of compromise necessary to get a grand bargain. where he lands is the most interesting question to me. >> schieffer: what happens next, david? let's just talk about this. unless they find some compromise here, you're going to see these horrendous across-the-board cuts in defense and social programs. you're also going to see these tax cuts expire, which means everybody gets a tax increase. do you think they can do it before the end of the year? or will they just kick it down the road? >> i think they can find a way to postpone the fiscal cliff for another six months a year. i think that's certainly doable becaus
of a change. john boehner will be the speaker of the house, you know, unless something unforeseen happens in the next few weeks. he will be, he will keep the reign. the republicans gained, you know, a few seats, but that's not really going to effect his shot. he ran unopposed in ohio for his own race, and the defining conflict of the republican conference in the 112th congress, this sort of conflict between eric cantor, the majority leader, and john boehner, the speaker, is really behind them at least, you know, from everything that we have seen. the -- so that is remarkably stable, the first three positions. john boehner will be, you know, the next speaker, eric cantor will be the majority leader, and kevin mccarthy will be the majority whip. where it starts to get interesting is for the conference chairman position. this is currently held by jeb hensarling who is making a bid to be the financial services chairman. hensarling has been a sort of rising star for a while within republican ranks. he was a republican study committee chairman which is sort of the top conservative position in r
now. >> reporter: but republican house speaker john boehner has balked at that idea. it would take away most of his party's leverage in fiscal cliff negotiations. >> there are a lot of issues on the table that have to be resolved by the end of the year, and i think i've laid out a reasonable framework where both parties can work together, and i'm looking forward to going down to the white house on friday and beginning that conversation. >> reporter: boehner and other top republicans have proposed eliminating deductions and loopholes that benefit the wealthy instead raising their tax rates. >> we are not going to hurt our economy and make job creation more difficult which is exactly what that plan would do. >> reporter: today the president argued closing loopholes alone won't be enough to cut the deficit. he'll have that argument face to face with wayne or friday. one of the most frequent criticisms we've heard over the past few years from members on both sides if you haven't done enough to reach out and build relationships. are there concrete ways you plan to approach your relation
a series of tax cuts expire and spending cuts kick in. john boehner said he outlined a framework that is consistent with the president's call for a balanced approach of both higher revenue and spending cuts. >> our challenge is to make sure that you know we are able to cooperate together, work together, find some common ground, make some tough compromises, build some consensus to do the people's business. >> while we are going to continue to have revenue on the table it is incumbent for my colleagues to show the american people we are serious about cutting spending and solving our fiscal dilemma, i believe we can do this and avert the fiscal cliff that is right in front of us today. >> the president began the meeting on a chordal note, wishing speaker boehner, shaking his hand, a happy birthday. >>> an oil rig exploded in the gulf of mexico 25 southeast of grand isle, louisiana. two crew members are missing and four injured. the fire that followed the explosion has been extinguished. the rigbylongs to black elk energy, an independent oil and gas company headquartered in houston.
, and will will be working throughout the holiday. >> president obama wished house speaker john boehner an early happy birthday. the president gave him a bottle of sanjiovacy. >> one miff favorites. >> yes. >> yes, it could vool yait the gift limit is $50 and no combination from one source can exceed $100 per year, abc news reports the bottle retails for 125s oodz no wine for mr. boehner. >> an oakland police officer helped capture one of oakland's most-wanted criminals. this went down at ruth's chris steak house. the officer was having dinner, and he noticed a number of notorious street gangs in a nearby table. he stepped outside, called police then went back inside to his table, officers from both cities all converged outside. >> seemedf/s;s vital realtime information from the officer. we knew his movement, his whereabouts. >> the man arrested wanted for a residential robbery, he was dining with fellow gang members. police made some skipped out on the check go back, pay, and leave a nice tip. >> yes. >> still ahead on abc 7 news at 4:00 good samaritans. a grandfather saves a baby's live at the last
boehner proposed leaders establish a framework in the next six weeks for wide scale reform of the tax code, medicare, and social security in 2013. e e goal would be to set specific targets now for savings from those reforms. msat would negate the need for cutp spending cuts congress called for last year that are set to kick in on january 1, the reme day the bush tax cuts are set to expire. that damaging combo has been wnme to be known as the fiscal cliff. while democrats often balling at day mention of entitlement reform, today nancy pelosi signaled a new openness. >> do we want to have savings from everything that we do? certainly? so we need revenue, we need savings, we need growth. > reporter: leader pelosi said tere appeared to be interest in a big deal, about four trillion rsllars worth of deficit reductions along the lines of the grand bargain that fell part wean the president and tpeaker boehner last year, rethony. >> mason: nancy, there are just 46 days until the new year. what can they really hope to ?ccomplish in that time? >> reporter: well, i think what they're hoping for an is
of certain deductions and tax loopholes that benefit the wealthy. speaker of the house john boehner emphasized that hiking taxes on these wealthy americans will hurt the very people who create the jobs. >> we are not going to hurt our economy and make job creation more difficult, which is exactly what that plan would do. >> barack obama has made his clearest demand since winning reelection. taxes on the wealthiest of american citizens must go up. he says the country could suffer a, quote unquote, rude shock if there is too much stubbornness in congress over his agenda and nothing gets done. >> step number one that we can take in the next couple of weeks, provide certainty to middle-class families, 98% of families who make less than $250,000 a year, 97% of small businesses, that their taxes will not go up a single next year. give them that certainty right now. we can get that done. >> question, who will blink first? how will this be resolved? paul. >> both sides have an incentive, even though they're saying the opposite to wait until after the first of the year. after the first of th
. senate majority leader reid said they would work to come up with a deal deal. house speaker john boehner says house speaker john boehner says he thinks they will have a solution before the end of the year. >>> and there are new details about the woman, jill kelley, at the center of the scandal that brought down general petraeus. as nbc's andrea mitchell reports jill kelley's connections went beyond the social elite and tampa, all the way to the white house. >> reporter: jill kelley and her twin sister met at the white house, touring it on november fourth november 4th, two days be general james november 4th, two days before general james clapper, the director of national intelligence was even told about the petraeus scandal. jill kelley mentioned the visit in an e-mail, saying i was at the white house with my friends in the administration this weekend. the stress was surreal. white house officials say the jill kelley sisters were invited by a staffer who may have met at the air force base. jill kelley was bipartisan in her outreach, she and her sister dropped in on a fundraiser for marco
of the white house and the senate. i think john boehner has been the biggest in this, putting revenue on the table. i do agree with doug and i think that we will get some last-minute deal where we will kick the can down the road. if we go to the fiscal cliff, my party will shoulder the blame. trust me, my party is losing the message game and that is why we are having a bargain right now. >> there is a larger point. bottom line, if we go into some kind of economic downturn or a recession, all sides and all parties. >> i do agree with you. when the finger-pointing goes down, my party is the one to blame. right now we are trying to put humpty dumpty back together. gerri: to that point, and to both of you, what does the republican party need to do? to change the way it is viewed, we need to do? >> we can't continue to be the party of old white men. we have to work and take control of immigration reform and we have to change our message. we have to stop the fire and brimstone. if you don't vote for us, you are a lazy mood or read it. we feel your pain, we are here with you, stick with us a
's debt crisis. but speaker john boehner told house republicans that after last week's election the mandate from the american people is to work together even if it means additional revenues through tax reform. meanwhile bill kristol, editor of "the weekly standard," seemed to cave in on the president's demand that wealthy people pay more. >> you know what? it won't kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires. it really won't, i don't think. really? t >> reporter: the president begins making his case this week. what's different this time is that administration officials are already suggesting to congress that mr. obama is willing to let the deadline pass, let tax rates go up, and spending be cut if he can't get the deal he wants. norah, charlie? >> wow. bill plante in washington, thank you. >>> later this morning we'll ask conservative activist grover norquist if republicans are backing away from his no tax increase pledge. >>> two weeks ago today superstorm sandy battered the northeast. more than 100,000 homes and businesses still have no power. most of them
would be willing to accept and double the amount that speaker boehner had offered the president during their debt negotiations last year. today the president is scheduled to meet with ceos from a dozen companies. there's some of them on your screen. general electric, ford, ibm all playing a part. they'll discuss ways to work together and try to find a balanced approach to reducing the deficit. during a closed-door meeting yesterday with union leaders and liberal supporters, president obama reportedly vowed that he would, quote, not budge when it comes to letting the bush tax cuts expire for the country's highest earners. labor leader and president of the afl-cio, richard trumka, was among those at the white house meeting. he said he and the president are on the same page. >> we're very, very committed to making sure that the middle class and workers don't end up paying the tab for a party that we didn't get to go to. the president led with that notion of protecting the middle class, and now you have republicans that have it in their power, they could sign a bill tomorrow that protects
seem to be moving closer to a key sticking point. >> speaker boehner seemed to suggest that he was open to closing loopholes, to real tax reform. can you get there by just closing loopholes, or will it take more than that? >> well, look, i don't want to prejudge the discussions. i think that the speaker's comments have been encouraging and there is obviously money to be gained by closing some of these, closing some of these loopholes and applying them to deficit reduction. there are a lot of ways to skin this cat. gregg: illinois congressman peter roskam joins us. he is on the house ways and means committee. he joins us from chicago. good to see you. house speaker boehner says he will oppose any increase in tax rates. and the white house said on friday, and i will read this directly, the president will veto any bill that includes an extension of the current tax rates for those earning more than $250,000 a year. so congressman, where is the come promize? >> i think the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior. we've heard this language coming from the white house before. we hea
boehner, basically had a deal in place, it ended up getting blown up at the last minute. i think there is a, perhaps, a new conciliation on both sides. i think they were waiting for the election to get over. i think the attitudes are positive on both sides. and i think they've got the framework for a deal already set up from last year. so i don't think that there are any closer but i also don't think they were that far away last year in 2011. >> do you think that closing the loopholes would be enough for a deficit reduction package? >> it doesn't appear that that's going to raise enough revenue to get to where the democrats want that to be. republicans say they don't want to raise rates. there are some -- there's some budget chicanery that can go on in terms of dealing with one baseline instead of another baseline. that's what it looked like boehner wanted to do last year. there are a lot of different options here. it's interesting, bill kristol from the weekly standard appeared to be talking to grover norquist, the anti-tax activist in those comments that he played earlier, talk
's about to happen in this building in an hour from now. speaker boehner, senator mcconnell, senator reid, democratic leader pelosi, all will come here and speak for a couple hours. day one of negotiations. nobody is expecting huge news but as jim has already tweeted out this morning, the market is going to look for signs that this tone of compromise that we've heard so much about all week long is that for real or are talks going to break down in early stages? the market specifically is going to depend on that tone today and we'll bring that live when the meeting happens a little after 10:00 a.m. >> we've seen reaction of futures to the possibility of a deal. we've been down for six of the past seven days but the dow this morning implied open is up 33 points. sapp looks s&p looks to add fiv. here we have italy down three-quarter percent and mixed bag for the rest. carl? okay. we're going to go to the road map this morning. that is where carl is in washington d.c. reports this morning that hard decisions surrounding deficit reduction could be kicked down the road until 2013 in favor of a s
. and secondly, when john boehner says the american people do not want tax increases, if you could remind folks that the house numbers for the democrats out way -- outweigh -- all of the people who won on the democratic side, they were outvoted by half of 1 million voters. guest: -- host: thank you. guest: i think they live in a parallel universe and are often ill informed on the news. but on the second point, john boehner always says the american people do not want anybody's taxes to go up. i do not know what he bases that on. here we go back to the polls again, but every survey or poll that i have seen among democrats and republicans, the american people think that the wealthiest have had a good free ride for 10 years and should go back to paying their fair share. i do not know where john boehner gets that. gets that.
election? >> no, not at all. in fact, after election day the president, speaker boehner, senate ma minority leader mitch mcconnell all talking about the facecle life, what they were going to do, not going to do, what they wanted to negotiate, not negotiate, but on friday, as news exploded out from the cia thanks to our own andrea mitchell that the president accepted the resignation of the cia director, general david petraeus, all of that -- you have to add that plus all the things you talked about, fiscal cliff, to what the president has to deal with. as you said, no honeymoon, indeed. >> and added to what jonathan just said, julian, there are some concerns over this that this is just the tip of the iceberg. i want to play you something senator feinstein said to andrea mitchell this afternoon. >> this thing came so fast and hard. since then it's been like peeling an onion. every day another peel comes off and you see a whole new dimension to this. so my concern has actually escalated over the last few days. >> it's clear she's suggesting this is going well beyond the realm of a personal mat
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of the house, john boehner, by john mccain's own bff in the senate, joe lieberman, he also disagrees with mr. mccain on this. same goes for susan collins of maine who did go to the classified briefing yesterday and noted publicly that john mccain was not there. even though it was his committee. mccain's special investigation idea was also shot down today by republican senator richard burr who said, quote, i think you've got to allow the structure we have of oversight to function and i think the intelligence committee is more than capable of handling this. in other words, the senate is getting information so maybe we should, you know, get information instead of continuing to scream on tv about not getting information. here's how you know when somebody is being disingenuous. when they demand something and then you give them that thing that they just keep demanding about and they pretend that you're not giving it to them and they just keep making the demand anyway as if it hasn't been met. john mccain obviously sees some advantage somewhere in continuing to scream on tv about the fact he's not
. >> is that the big onus on john boehner? >> i think it is the onus on all of the negotiators. it's all of them at this point. because that's where the spotlight is. yeah. it's going to be quite a task. we saw that when this happened the last time. it's going to come right up to the line. i think we might be here late december. >> the drama will take us through the end of the year. our power panel, jackie kucinich, blake, robert, thanks to all three of you. >>> up next i'll talk with someone who was in this morning's closed door hearing with general petraeus, republican congressman tom rooney will join the show. what do you think about today's testimony? tweet me your comments at thomas a. roberts. we're back after this. [ male announcer ] when was the last time something made your jaw drop? campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do. and you learned something along the way. this is the age of knowing what you're made of. so, why let erectile dysfunc
, john boehner after congressional leaders met with the president, earlier today to try to negotiate a way to avert the so-called fiscal cliff. both sides of the aisle came out confident that a deal would be made before the january 1 deadline. but neither side provided specifics on how that is going to happen. after boehner's vague comments, there are new concerns that the speaker may give up way too much and agree to tax increases. i'm here to lay out exactly what he has on the table. congressman, good to see you. >> good to be with you, sean. >> sean: i am concerned because -- >> i am -- you and me both? >> i am concerned about caving. you have outgoing virginia governor mcdonald, and former governor haley barbour and others saying, maybe we can give in on these things. did any house republican get elected and say to their constit webts they would raise taxes? if they did, i didn't hear it. >> i don't know a single one. sean, this is not the time to be defensive. and of course, there are plenty of people who say i am very offensive. but this is a time to go on offense, with our big
to avoid tax hikes and spending cuts. john boehner is asking to outline a plan and get fellow republicans on board. ryan will likely be under the most pressure to back away from his conservative politics. his run for vp no doubt brought him some new-found respect and political clout amongst his colleagues. they say they will confident they will be able to reach some sort of a deal by the engineer of the deal, they need to be at an impasse when it comes to taxes. they said any deal to reduce the deficit should come through pro-gross reforms. that means things like lowers rates, and closing loopholes. >> just to close loopholes is far too little money, and they have said they weren't it to be revenue neutral. the president has been very clear, that the higher-income people have to pay their fair share. >> that means no deal from the democrats if republicans will not agree to raise taxes on the wealthy, but pelosi says she is optimistic. more john coming up after the break. stay with us. ♪ created ad message for little caesars who proudly salutes unites
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't be enough of those to block passage. speaker boehner will put a coalition together of moderate companies, even some conservative republicans along with democrats to get a deal that has some increased revenue probably in marginal rate increases, also some deduction closing loophole closing, probably corporate tax rates will change tick lei larly on carried interest. he will sell it to enough people through the house while not risk it to those who have races in 2014 who might get a primary. he won't get so many defections he won't get a deal across. we shouldn't jump to the conclusion because there are still hard-line conservatives no-tax increase republicans in the house that they dominate now, they don't dominate. >> ben white, interesting analysis. >>> just heard ben white thinks we're going to get a deal done but right now america's economy is still being held hostage. the fact that washington is on vacation -- not helping. eamon javers is live on capitol hill where congress isn't. eamon. >> that's right. look behind me. see if you see any members of congress. they're not here, they're
tomorrow is speaker john boehner's birthday. for those of you who want to wish him a happy birthday, we will not embarrass him with a cake because they did not know how many candles were needed. >> right, right. >> but we did want to wish him a happy birthday. stuart: that is the photo op basically be fo before the hard bargaining begins. i did pick up it was john boehner next to the president and the president went out of his way to say we want a balanced approach. that means tax the rich. >> taxes go up, increasing revenue, which we already have no word on entitlement spending. no time like the present. the dollar now down 26. know in part on the from that. >> not raising taxes, and the second element of this which has not been part of the public conversation is cutting spending. we don't have a revenue problem, have a spending problem, no issue with cutting spending. stuart: i said taxes on the rich will go up. are you going to disagree with me? >> depends on what you mean of taxes going up. i don't think republicans are going for that, don't. stuart: whether they are forced into it?
think mr. boehner has got to understand they lost and let the wishes of the majority of the people in this country prevail. but once again, when you have millions of people really struggling in this country economically, when you have some people out there wanting to cut benefits for disabled veterans and people on social security through a so-called chain cpi, you tell me, if there's any state in this country where people think, we're going to cut benefits for disabled veterans and elderly folks but we're going to give more tax breaks for millionaires and billionaire, i personally don't believe there's one state in this country which agrees with that. that's why i'm very happy to see president obama suggesting he's going to get out of capitol hill. he's going to go on the road and explain that issue to the american people. i hope millions of folks all over this country from blue states, from red states, start calling up capitol hill, their congressmen, their senators and say the wealthiest people in this country have to start paying their fair share of taxes. >> senator, good to s
's time to get the job done. >> speaker boehner told republican members they would have to avoid fights. according to the "new york times" they seemed to listen but it doesn't change the basic disagreement that could push the country off the fiscal cliff the 1st of january. that is when tax cuts expire the average family will pay an extra $3700 a year. and severe cuts in defense spending will be triggered. sticking point, taxes. the president won on letting tax cuts for the rich expire. leading republican said, no. if it sounds like the argument we already heard, you are right. democrats appear emboldened. >> if the republicans will not agree with that, we will reach a point at the end of this year where all the tax cuts expire and we'll start over next year. >> the two sides have four more days to lay out their markers. on friday they come to the white house to start negotiations. >> ama: weather, it's been nice out but just chilly. >> i think the clouds that are sitting off the coast will help to warm us up. let's take a live look from vollmer peak cam looking down to the bay bridge.
'll play their hand i think to their full advantage. >> what kind of hand does john boehner have? where sg it leave him and his ability to control the tea party wing? >> it actually puts skron boehner in a good position because during the debt ceiling talks last year, he had a lot of push back from the very far right of his party in the house. the tea party caucus, for example. this time around we won't see the same dynamic at all because the tea party caucus and far right have lost a lot of political capital in light of the election. so what we've already seen is speaker boehner talking to republicans in the house, putting his foot down early and saying we're not going to have that same push back we saw. instead, i'm going to tell you what we're going to do and what this deal is going to look like and you'll fall into line. >> he got criticism because he negotiated a deal and then went back and tried to sell to the party. does he naed to do he need to d way around, get a set position and then go into discussions? >> i think that is the thinking this time around. and he has certainly recog
are democratic and half of whom live in hollywood? >> reporter: republican leader john boehner said when he was talking about being open to new revenue, he was not talking about new tax increases. the president sits down with democrats and republican leaders here on capitol hill on friday. back to you. >> tracie potts in washington. thank you. >>> two weeks after the destruction from hurricane sandy, victims are still trying to put their lives back together. more than 100,000 homes and businesses in new york and new jersey are without electricity as they struggle to rebuild. a 77-year-old man has died from injuries from a fall brunging the city's death toll to 43. homeland security secretary janet nah pop politan know has reaffirmed her commitment to be with those for the duration. now for a look at the weather here is nbc meteorologist bill karins with the weather channel forecast. give me good news. >> that's depends where you are in the west. >> i want sunshine. >> go south. the northwest isn't pretty. rain and snow in many areas of washington state and oregon state. look at the radar. t
of them is obamacare, as john boehner put it the other way, it's the law of the land. that means that businesses are going to be laying people off. that means that over eight million americans who are part time are going to continue to work part time until we see a real resurgence in this economy, certainly. because it's just not economical for the employer to move ahead. it's cheaper for them, in fact, to pay a $2,000 fine. imagine this, to pay $2,000 for an employee they didn't hire who they've hired and not put them on an employee-sponsored insurance plan. this is the exact reversefect of what we had, you know, been told would occur. but we should be used to that, because so much of the -- so many of the consequences have not been intended because they were never thought out by this congress, the previous congress. and we're looking at people saying it's partisanship. let me give you an example of why that's pure bull, shannon, many i fay. shannon: please do. >> one of the companies laying off people is a company called stryker, one of the medical device makers, one of the big
-brainer that even a john boehner or mitch mcconnell have to see they cannot survive politically and oppose that. >> eliot: one would hope so. this is one where you want the president to watch the days and watch and say i'm not moving. this is your fault. >> bill: right. then here's the latest wrinkle. i'm sure you saw yesterday some democrats now say that they're buying the mitt romney plan, if you will, of let's not raise tax rates. let's just close loopholes. right. can you get there -- two-fold question eliot. i hate to put you on the spot. one is what's wrong with raising tax rates and two can you get there just by closing loopholes? >> eliot: nothing and no. nothing wrong with raising the rates on the top folks including me including the president including -- >> bill: and me. >> eliot: this is what this campaign was about. the president spoke to it eloquently. bill clinton. every economic study. i wrote my editorial on my show the other night the congressional research service just came out with a study saying ther
'll still be wealthy. >> reporter: while john boehner agreed ballparks ises in, he said -- bipartisan cooperation is necessary, he said the president's plan is wrong >> we are not going to hurt our economy. >>> that cia sex scandal highlights the insecurities of e-mail. but there are more ways than ever to hide sensitive documents and erase your footsteps. len ramirez shows us how. >> this tape will self-destruct in 5 seconds. >> reporter: there has always been a need to protect sensitive information. whether it's a corporation dealing with trade secrets or a senator trying to hide an adulterous affair. our information more vulnerable than ever. >> the biggest concern is the security of the information in the cloud. >> reporter: the cloud based in san jose has been doubling in size the last two years by creating software that encrypts e-mail to make it unreadable to any outsider. >> if you're not going through our gateway, all you'd see is gibberish. >> reporter: it's designed as a business security system. >> consumer data. >> reporter: but there's an emerging market for consumer pr
, house speaker john boehner said that congress has ways to avert the fiscal crisis, but rewriting the tax code in two or three weeks is not one of them. lawmakers have until midnight on new year's eve to reach an agreement. the first round of meetings begins today. hurricane sandy's power-packed winds swept away sales momentum in the retail sector, especially in the car industry. prior to the storm, retail sales were edging higher. the month of september was revised up 1.3% from 1.1%. but after sandy, overall, retail sales slid .3% in october, the first dip in 3 months. automaker sales plunged 1.5%, the larget drop since august of 2011. car makers blame the storm for sluggish sales and predict a rebound in november. the national automobile dealer'' association is standing by its prediction that as many as a quarter of a million vehicles suffered damage from superstorm sandy. and as our cover story explains, many of them could be resold at auction and wind up on used car lots from coast-to- coast. the national automobile dealer'' association says despite fewer than 40,000 claims filed in t
of avoiding the fiscal cliff. he'll meet with harry reid, mitch mcconnell, john boehner and nancy pelosi at quarter after 10:00 eastern time. mcconnell says republicans won't raise tax rates. the white house says the president won't sign an extension of tax cuts for top earners. chinese officials including the country's vice minister are sounding alarm bells with external risks to growth. they hope the uts will come to an agreement on tax issues or warns the country could face a slide into deep recession. eunice yoom is taking a closer look at the relationship between the two economic super powers and how they're likely to proceed. >> she's sitting down to her regular taste of americana. she and her co-workers dine out at their favorite fast food joint from the west twice a week, exactly the kind of middle income chinese american companies hope will drive their future growth. >> translator: we're used to eating rice, she says. it's convenient and nice to have fast food once in a while and have a change. american companies are hoping gnaw leadership will make it easier to sell to chinese
, it will be the conversation that happens between president obama, house speaker john boehner, senate majority leader harry reid, and a lot of their colleagues and people from the business community need to tell them and put the pressure on them to say this is serious and we're getting to the 11th hour. host: both of you were asking questions of the governor about whether the dynamics have changed and whether or not this was essentially a status "election. what is the consensus on that question? >> president obama did win a second term in a fairly strong fashion. it was suggest the president has an upper hand. at the same time, when you look at what actually happened to the make up the federal government, not a lot has been changed. democrats picked up a couple seats but the house is still run by the republicans and democrats have a slim margin in the senate. in terms of the big pieces, there is more of the same. host: what leverage does he have? >> he was explicit on the campaign trail on what he was running on. he wants to see the wealthiest contribute more in terms of helping the middle-class. the presi
on the growing debt. john boehner and president obama are the primary negotiators. what are both sides going to need to do to get the job done? chris van hallen joins us now. thanks for coming in. good to have you here. >> good to be with you. >> is there any reason that i or we the american people can have any optimism this is going to get done before the end of the year? there's not a lot of time left and a lot to deal with. >> yes, there is reason for optimism. there is a combustable risks. but there is opportunities here. with respect to across the board cuts, i think there's a decent chance congress could come up with an alternative way to reduce the deficit over a period of time so you don't have these slashing cuts. you'd have to replace those savings with other savings but that's doable. the tax piece is more complicated. you've heard the president make the point that he wants to immediately extend tax relief to 98% of american people. 100% of the american people would get tax relief on the first $250,000 of their income. on income above that, we should have people go back to the rat
from major players. >> i'm open pro compho comproe myself. >> reporter: speaker boehner said they would have to avoid nasty fights and according to "the new york times," they seemed to listen. but it could push the country offer the fiscal cliff, the 1st of january. that's when the number of tax cuts expired dubbed taxmageddon. and severe cuts that defense spending would be triggered. the sticking point on avoiding that cliff -- taxes. the president campaigned on and won on letting tax cuts for the rich expire. a leading republican said no. >> no republican is going to vote for higher tax rates. we will generate revenue from eliminating deductions from loopholes. >> reporter: if that sounds like the argument we heard before, you're right. that rates for the rich rise. are we headed for that cliff? >> so if the republicans will not agree wi that, we will reach a point at the end of this year where all the tax cuts expire and we'll start over next year. >> on friday, congressional leaders come here to the white house to start negotiations in earnest. david kerley, abc news, the white hous
. boehner and the president were close to a deal last year. the so called grand bargain, $4 trillion in debt reduction, including politically sensitive changes to social security and medicare. many think that blueprint still works. >> and the real problem is uncontrolled entitlement spending and a government that has grown massively, not just under this administration, under republican administration. >> reporter: experts warn of serious damage to the economy if the standoff drags on. >> if three or four weeks from now they're making no progress at all, you'll see the anxiety and nervousness growing in the markets and corporate boardrooms. it's going to be a rough for months. >>> two weeks after the destruction from hurricane sandy, victims are still trying to put their lives back together. more than 100,000 homes and businesses in new york and new jersey are without electricity as they struggle to rebuild. a 77-year-old man has died of injuries from a fall as sandy hit new york, bringing the city's death toll to 43. janet napolitano visited with disaster relief workers in new york, reaffirm
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are you willing to give. you know, when john boehner appears, they say are you willing to accept higher rates. no one says what are you going to do about entitlements or anything, there's no question of the president whether he will compromise and what that would look like. >> paul: steve, what do you think the republicans ought to do here? is there a way out for them or are they going to be pushed back into a corner where they have no choice, but to concede that they have to raise tax rates or else go over the cliff and get blamed for that? >> well, it's a tough situation for them. there's no question about it because as you know, the default position, if we don't do anything is for the taxes to go up on everybody on january 1st, and that's something i think both sides want to avoid. it's very interesting, the thing that happened this week to start the week, was who was the first person that barack obama met with in the white house since his election, the labor unions, the labor block, that tells a lot who is driving policy at least at the start of the second term? and the labor unions
john boehner has shown interest in the plan which would raise more tax revenue without raising rates. >> it's clear that there are a lot of special interest loopholes in the tax code, both corporate and personal. >>reporter: democrats and republicans say they will reach an agreement, but a new poll shows many americans are skeptical. 51% of those surveyed believe a deal will not get done. tara mergener for cbs news, capitol hill. >>> it appears that the makers of twinkies and hohos couldn't avoid their fiscal cliff. hostess brand says a national bakers' strike has crippled their operations at 33 plants. so more than 18,000 workers will lose their jobs. the company warned employees that it would sell off its assets if workers did not return to work by last night. the company will sell off its twinkies and wonder bread brands. >>> still to come when 9 news now continues, we're going to talk live to dr. phil. we're going to talk about his new book and what's coming up on his show today. you can watch it right here beginning at 4:00 p.m. >>> but, first, a lot of people got ill from f
. house speaker john boehner said, quote, i believe that we can do this. the top democrat nancy pelosi said she's confident a solution might be in sight. the lawmakers need to reach a deal with the president to avert a series of tax increases and spending cuts. they're scheduled to take affect january 1st. >>> coming up next on the news edge six, the much anticipated beltway express lanes hour,as -- hours away from opening. what you need to know. sue. >> and the weekend about to get started around d.c. lots of sunshine today and still running a little below average. we're trying to make a couple of sweeps to the weekend forecast. i will follow you in on that in a few minutes. lindsay, what is going in sports. >> below average doesn't work in sports. d.c. unite side a must-win and the wizards must win and redskins will get helping hands back this weekend. later in sports as the news edge at 6 continues.  . >>> drivers will get the new test drive starting tomorrow. the five-year construction project adds four new lanes from the beltway to springfield and north of the dulles to
, a and john boehner thoughit w a great meeting. >> there was aot of happy talk followg ththe meeting.. this is just the openening salvo. if they want to still some confidence among businesses that is goining to happe. if no deal is struck, there will be automatic cuts to defense spending and progrgram i have to say i've admitted guilty of charge we theedia are talking so much about the defenseuts and possible tax hikes on the w wealthy, a lot of people are missing o there will be cuts s to theefenense spending and domestic spending.g. you have many programs t that are on the table and cou take a gger hit if t the defense lobbyists are mo successful. >> the cuts to thehe social programs don't ve the kind of powerful a iluential advocates saidid they have not got e same attention. is important to note that programs for low income people -- >> thecoululd still end up getting cut in lots of places. theydoug fruehling, let me turn to you. let's lo at just thcity of washington. mayor ay has laid out an ambitious five-year plan that you have wrten about in the "washington business journal."
speaker john boehner to compromise with president obama and avoid direct budget cuts. >> jobs, no cuts. >> reporter: more than 100 protesters. >> 47%. this is the vietnam veteran. >> reporter: organized by the group rdc. crowded the hallways outside the house speaker's office. >> i have three children. >> reporter: april thomas was homeless up until two years ago when federal help finally put her young family in an apartment in southeast. >> now i'm told that it will be a possibility that i might end up back where i came from. >> reporter: the speaker staff locked the doors. but a spokesperson says that they proposed a responsible and balanced framework to avert the fiscal cliff. bruce leshan, 9news now. >>> it was the worst oil spill in our nation's history and today bp says they will pay $4.5 billion for that deadly oil rig explosion in the subsequent massive oil leak. that money will also include more than $1 billion in criminal penalties. bp plead guilty to 12 felony charges relating to the death of those 11 workers and lying to congress about the amount of oil that was pouring int
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are stopping by. all leading up to the meeting on friday. john boehner, harry reid, mitch mcconnell, the same group last year. since that meeting, republicans have been discussing revenue increases. democrats want tax rate increases. republicans say there are other ways to get there like curbing tax deductions. >> this whole notion of capital gains and dividend taxes is really an explicit to pension funds and the ability of moms and pops that are out there to have income producing small capital investments. rich: the president's budget increases the top tax rate from 15 to 20%. meeting friday at the white house. back to you. lori: we know you will be there, rich. thank you. melissa: the president calling on congressional leaders to work together. congress has a voter mandate not to raise taxes. joining us now is steve moore from the "wall street journal." thank you for hopping on the phone to talk to us. i am really interested in the interview that you did. he said over the weekend "let me put it very clearly, i am not willing to turn off taxes for the sequester." >> one of the things that ca
other point that i want to make and that is that my understanding is tomorrow is representative boehner's birthday. for those who want to wish him a happy birthday, we're not going to embarrass him with a cake because we didn't know how many candles were needed -- >> yeah, right. >> but we do want to wish him a happy birthday. >> thank you. >> thank you, everybody. appreciate it. >> house and senate leaders spoke briefly to reporters. >> good morning, everyone. we had a very constructive meeting with the president to talk about america's fiscal problem. i outlined a framework that deals with reforming our tax code and reforming our spending. i believe that the framework that i have outlined in our meeting today is consistent with the president's call for a fair and balanced approach. to show our seriousness, we have put revenue on the table as long it's accompanied by significant spending cuts. while we're going to continue to have revenue on the table, it's going to be incumbent for my colleagues to show the american people that we're serious about cutting spending and solving our fisc
if not paralyzed to get things done? the speaker boehner, mr. president, let's get some stuff going here, but how much of the responsibility lies with him? with speaker boehner, do you think? >> people want cooperation on both sides. the issue at hand will be the fiscal cliff and our budgetary situation. the president's put a proposal forward. it's incumbent on the speaker to say, what they would be willing to do and not simply say, it's not our responsibility. i think people expect everyone to live up to their responsibilities. and one thing that is clear as i moved around the country with the president is that they're hungry for that kind of cooperation. i hope that coming out of this election people will come with a renewed sense of cooperation. because it will take that to solve problems. let me just say one other thing, though, you mentioned that not much has changed. actually what is interesting is you have these super pacs spending literally billions of dollars to defeat the president and to defeat democrats running for congress. well, the president was re-elected. you have more democrats
speaker boehner tell it, republicans have to swallow their pride and just stay in line, and tea party said they made him speaker and better watch how he is speaks. >>guest: why don't we all talk about rather that who getting in line and who is cooperating with who, what is the best thing for our country? wouldn't it be nice to have a leader in washington who said, wait, it is not about just working together for a show but what is best for our country, and, neil, there are very hard decisions to be made and i don't think we should compromise on things that are not good for all of us in america. >>neil: you may feel that way struckly and i have admired the fact you stick to your guns no matter the crosswind but the president is going to claim, elections have consequences and it was close, but i won, and i won despite this call for higher taxes, maybe because of it, and the rich have to deal. you say, what? >>guest: well, i say, first, just because you win an election, that doesn't noon you get to go off the rails and do what is not good for america because you have some weird agenda. two, ta
boehner outlined different positions is there room for a deal. >> i think there may be because john boehner made it clear that while republicans don't want tax rates to rise, they are open to collecting additional revenue. on the other side, president obama reiterated that he wants the wealthiest americans pay more taxes but he did not demand that tax rates rise to collect the money. if we read between the lines it looks like a deal could be cut to limit itemized deductions for the wealthiest americans. that's schedule a and some o of the popular deductions include mortgage interest or charitable contributions, property taxes and state and local taxes, we could see a deal around the itemized deductions. >> i don't want to be the grim reaper, what if they don't get a deal done, we're in trouble. >> 80 to 90% of americans are going to see their taxes increase, maybe by 3500 dollars on average, 2 grand for middle income americans. if you're a low to middle wage earner. here's what you would lose, the valuable earned income tax credit and payroll tax would go up by a couple percent. if
the president had with house speaker boehner a year ago in the summer that you talked about putting social security and medicare on the table but this is a different tile. he's got an election behind him. he's got a majority now looking for a very different course. all of the polls show the overwhelming majority of americans, includion republicans do not want social security and medicare cut in order to deal with deficits, and so i think the president's got the high ground. i think he's going to see a mobilization of his own base, the entire base of the democratic party mobilize to say don't touch medicaid, don't touch medicare and social security, raise taxes on the rich, and protect the vulnerable and he's going to face a lot of his own people if he goes a different way. >> so, let's talk about taxes for a second. i don't know why we're having a discussion with republicans on attaches either. if we let the tax cuts expire and reinstitute the middle class tax cuts, which would be a guarantee, because every politician agrees, we would get $1 trillion. in the so-called grand bargain preside
for these negotiations, john boehner's position is he is open to revenue, but not if it includes increasing the top tax rate. he is only doing it through some mystery process of tax reform where you have a large amount of revenue, but still at 35% of the top tax rate or if boehner has his druthers, have a lower tax rate, maybe 28% as in simpson-bowles. the white house doesn't think the math will work out. they believe even when it can, you have to do such radical things like eliminating charitable deduction at the top brackets entirely, it wouldn't be worth doing if you could. their view, it is not a compromise to say in a future tax reform process you're going to get that money, they're not going to sign anything that doesn't include the top tax rate going up at the end of december. >> justin, you were in the room with the president today. can you confirm that quote that the huffington post has, i am not going to budge, i said in 2010 i'm going to do this once and i meant it? >> i actually don't remember if those are his exact words, and also the president asked us to keep the contents of that meeting
of the united states. house speaker john boehner has less support each day for a hard line approach. republican opposition to tax increases is slipping in congress. anti-tax lobbyist grover norquist no longer as a majority of supporters in either chamber. "the hill" says newly elected republicans refuse to sign the anti-tax pledge during the campaigns and another handful of returning republicans have disavowed their alliance to the written commitment. it's about time. at least they paid attention to the election. today bobby jindal scolded the entire party for the approach to the economy. hold it right there. this comment, he sewer sounds like a democrat. we've got to make sure that weren't the party of big business, big banks, big wall street bailouts, big corporate loophole, big anything. we cannot be, we must not be the party that simply protects the rich so they get to keep their toys. bobby, come on over to the good side, dude. you're talking like a conservative democrat. momentum is on the president's side. he just needs to know how motivated his allies are. the hard work didn't end last
tax rates right back on the wealthy. say republicans do not quite see things that way, speaker boehner refusing to consider a rate hike would put the would expect of an end of year deal to avoid a cliff locking more like a chasm. the public debt watcher is our guest. what do you think? >>guest: well, the president did double down on raising taxes today. he is taking the easy way out. he didn't talk about spending. he had a casual mention of cutting spending and addressing entitlements and those are the drivers of the debt. we have to be clear this starting offer is $1.6 trillion raising taxes we had $1.2 trillion deficit just last year. i don't think this is a one-sided problem. >>neil: something happened between the negotiating situation and removing the other argument, the spending argument and $1.6 trillion insisting it be a rate cut orate hike, he has removed doubt where the negotiations should go. is he interpreting or overinterpretting the election? he says the american people support that view. what do you think? >> i don't think the american people support that. if his own camp
speaker john boehner is holding a news conference about the house republican elections. kathy mcmorris rodgers has been elected to be house g.o.p. conference chairman and beat tom price who was endorsed by paul ryan who was the republican vice presidential nominee. and a couple of leadership positions will stay the same, including majority leader eric cantor and house whip kevin mccarthy. we are waiting to hear more about the elections. >> we are waiting to hear what happened from house speaker john boehner. a bit of background, one house republican sought to nominate newt gingrich for house speaker. we will have speaker boehner shortly. nancy pelosi announced that she plans to stay on as the leader of the house democrats and made the announcement at a press briefing and said, quote, i wouldn't think of walking away. we will watch that now while waiting for speaker boehner. >> i think that means most of them are here. good morning. more are coming. more are coming. yesterday, when we gathered here, i began my comments standing here with our new members of congress by saying a picture i
heard. i think a lot of conservative policies wonks hope this is the sort of thing that speaker boehner will glom on to, and that obama will say look, it's not my preferred way to get 1 trillion from wealthy americans but it does get me there. it doesn't have a huge impact on the middle class and can avoid a big fight and gives up on the rate increases. i don't think obama is going to give up on the rate increases that easily because they have been so central to his--both of his political campaigns as president even though you know at the end of the day he would end up at the same revenue baseline that he's looking for. it would appear to his base he's supporters like a pretty big cave. >> eliot: i think you're right. after the strength of his commentary and since the election where increasing rates has become the mantra, the line in the sand that people expect him to toe and stay very strict on. anything that backs off from that would require extensive preparation and conversation with his base. i'm not sure he's preparing the base for that right now. added to what we're talking about
was together, then she and john boehner and barack obama can work together. >> jennifer: with all these slings and arrows, she knows it's not about her. >> that's the biggest lesson in politics, you have to be bigger than yourself. >> jennifer: christine, thank you so much, my dear. up next, hunger is everywhere even where you least expect it. after the break we're going to visit an elementary school that is trying to feed the need in an unlikely county. part of our series on hunger. it's a story that you'll only find in the war room on current tv. [ boy 1 ] hey! that's the last crescent. oh, did you want it? yea we'll split it. [ female announcer ] made fresh, so light buttery and flakey. that's half that's not half! guys, i have more! thanks mom [ female announcer ] pillsbury crescents. let the making begin the saying easy as pie? i get it now. just unroll it fill, top, bake, and present. that must have taken you forever! it was really tough. [ female announcer ] pillsbury pie crust. let the making begin [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] >> jennifer: one in five kids in our count
passed already, with those rates and john boehner responded. >> the senate has already passed a law like this. democrats in the house are ready to pass a law like this and i hope republicans in the house come on board, too. we should not hold the middle class hostage while we debate tax cuts for the wealthy. >> i think in stead of the house moving on the senate bill, the senate ought to move on the house bill. >> so the debate has been engaged. it's going to be an interesting conversation on friday to get it started. >> that's right. he'll have the senate leaders and house leaders over to talk about this. one of the things that was so clear from that press conference was that the president is saying let's move this forward, let's move this forward now. he is certainly realizing that when you look at the four years that he has ahead of him, really it about the next 18 months to two years. that's when he has a mandate that, when he has political capital to spend. quickly he also wants to forestall some of these tax hikes that could come as early as january. john boehner initially said, lis
. they weren't fighting for the top jobs. that's going to stay john boehner. they're actually fighting for the number four job in the house. the contest was tom price against one of the precious few republican women in the house, cathy mcmorris rodgers. and there were some interesting politics at work here. miss mcmorris rodgers had the support of speaker john boehner, but tom price had the support of this guy, the republican party's vice presidential nominee, paul ryan. in the end, it was cathy mcmorris rodgers who won. paul ryan's guy lost. and so even as they lose the presidency, thanks to a devastating gender gap in the polls, and at the same time they send even fewer republican women to congress than were there before, republicans did today pick for this small, low-profile national republican number four leadership role an actual woman. and that's the best they've ever done. that's the highest ranking gop woman there has ever been in the house. back over on the senate side, republicans are faced with a dilemma set up for them by john mccain, as i was just discussing with bill burt
's chief negotiating adversary right now, speaker john boehner who was re-elected by house republicans yesterday said they're not ready to accept the president's proposal because it would, quote, hurt our economy and make jobs more difficult. but he also sounded the kumbaya theme. >> now, i do think that the spirit of cooperation that you've seen over the last week, from myself and my team. from democrats across the aisle. from the president. have created an atmosphere where i think that, i remain optimistic. >> folks, there are a lot closer than sometime the bravadoish headlines seem to make clear. this is really about what can boehner take to 50 to 100 house republicans who are willing to temporarily potentially raise some tax rates on some group of wealthier americans? >>> by the way, after $6 billion spent on house senate and presidential campaign, not only did party control not change for the house, senate and white house. but the individual leaders who will begin the negotiations tomorrow, it's the exact group of people. there are some personnel changes but not on that leadership
scoring. or closing loopholes that have not been identified. >> on this day, house speaker john boehner claimed that gallup survey showed most people support lowering the deficit ending the tax loopholes and making needed spending cuts. but that is not specific enough for white house. boehner wasn't more detailed the day before. >> getting in to the specifics of that at this point would not be con deuce i to try to come to the white house. >> republicans and democrats continue to position themselves for friday startup talks between the president and congressional leaders. each accusing the other of refusing to compromise. >> the keys to the car are heading toward the fisca cliff are in republican hands. >> liberal democrats demand 1 to 1 ratio of higher tax re-knew to spending cuts, some conservatives are demanding the only increase revenue come from the expanded economic growth. there is little prospect of that enough to avoid the cliff. meanwhile, senator coburn is calling for democrats cut and democrats to find savings in medicare and medicaid. the oklahoma republican admits it's nor
'll feed the needy. doge dart. >> doge: new rules. >> eliot: house speaker john boehner may not want to raise marginal tax rates on the wealthiest americans but he would probably be surprised to hear the view of one subset of the so-called 1%. they gave us our number of the day. 220. that's how many folks make up the patriotic millionaires. 2-year-old group that's asking for higher tax rates on the rich. on themselves. these are certifiably rich people including game publisher carlston and the founder of the men's wearhouse george zipper. about a dozen of them visited washington, d.c. yesterday to advocate reasonable policies such as a clinton era top tax rate of 39.6%. considering the escalation we've seen on the incomes of the top 1%, they want a new tax bracket for anyone making more than $10 million a year. yes, these patriotic millionaires would like their own tax rates to go up. you have to be nuts to actually want to pay more in taxes? no. not nuts. in fact, you don't even have to do it as a matter of fai
consens consensus. john boehner got the message. >> to show our seriousness, we have put revenue on the table as long as it's accompanied by significant spending cuts. >> senate majority leader harry reid and democratic leader nancy pelosi sounded equally positive. >> we have the cornerstones of being able to work something out. we'll both have to give up some of the things that we know are a problem. >> we understand that it has to be about cuts, it has to be about revenue, it has to be about growth. >> then came senate minority leader mitch mcconnell. so we might have a fly in the ointment. here it is. >> i can say on the part of my members that we fully understand that you can't save the country until you have entitlement programs that fit the demographics of the changing america in the coming years. we're prepared to put revenue on the table, provided we fix the real problem. >> the real problem? let me tell you something, senator. the real problem is two unfunded wars from the bush years, the bush tax cuts, and the give away to big pharma. senator mcconnell, it seems to me l
leadership. so speaker john boehner is going to be a lonely guy. >> i think the republicans ought to hold firm against any tax rates. president obama is striding around like he has a mandate for tax hikes but look at house republicans. for 20 years the house republican message has been against any tax hikes. voters now where house republicans were on taxes and tax hikes and the republicans retain their large majority so they absolutely ought to hold out against any tax hikes. >> that's a stalemate. >> speaker boehner has said close some loopholes. okay. there are good loopholes and bad ones. the house republicans ought to make sure that there is at least 3 or $4 of every spending cut for every dollar of loophole closing. >> there is no spending cuts. >> that's the thing. they have got to hold firm against that. >> they're talking about 400, $500 billion in revenues, maybe more. that's the republicans obsession. i didn't hear any spending cuts at all. >> the loopholes -- cuts in military spending. >> they won't do it. >> president obama has gone along with that. >> but the republicans won'
on everything else? i think it can be done. >> the powerful olive branch that speaker boehner issued this week, where he said to the president, we want you to lead, for the republicaneader to say we are willing to follow to a certain extent, he puts limitations on it, there's no question on it but for him to say that you're going to go into the house of representatives -- >> you think, bob, part of what you see and see with john boehner, he will say one thing vand to reverse course the very next day, and that is the challenge chuck was speaking to >> "the new york times" story points out and some people i have talked to i think he is getting more control and more have talked to i think he is getting mothis country was built by working people. the economy needs manufacturing. machines, tools, people making stuff. companies have to invest in making things. infrastructure, construction, production. we need it now more than ever. chevron's putting more than $8 billion dollars back in the u.s. economy this year. in pipes, cement, steel, jobs, energy. we need to get the wheels turning. i'm proud of
provisions giving you 1.6. the starting point for the administration. john boehner about a year and a half ago stopped about 800 alien dollars worth of revenue through tax reform. republicans won't give a number now but they want tax reform and an overhau overhauled the entirm to generate new revenue. there was talk about this yesterday with treasury secretary commissioner who said to that idea pretty much forgot about it. >> there is a lot of magical thinking about how much money can raise from tax adventures. people will look at that question and concluded i think incorrectly that there is a huge amount of resources. i think that is untrue. >> a dozen of ceos meet with the president and a couple of hours from now after the president's news conference at 1:30. a number of these executives have been to the white house before. members of the export council, jobs council, ceo of of ge, tao, ford, also say what the white house on the different councils in some form or another. cheryl: we will be taken the tae news conference from the president lives and the ceo will have something to chew on
. the biggest unknown variable here is what the republican conference is going to do and whether boehner can rally the guys to get them on board. that is the biggest question here, because no matter what they decide among the leaders, they have to get it past the house and the senate. >> and you know, there is also compromise idea being floated around right now to keep the rates the same, but eliminate the deductions for the rich. nancy pelosi making her position on that very, very clear. take a listen to this. >> is that something that is acceptable? >> no. >> nott all, no way? >> no, the president made it very clear in his campaign that there is not enough, there are not enough resources -- what you just described as a formula and a blueprint for hammering our future. >> you know, dana, if she is hardening her stance here as we watch the rhetoric, does it matter here, because nancy p pelosi, really, how big of a seat does she have at the table right now? >> no. she is, and something of a highchair at this point. she is not particularly relevant to this debate. the president was nowhere nea
boehner has a big task ahead of him. can the house speaker pull the gop together and try to make a deal with the president on the fiscal cliff as jay leno was talking about. should he? should a deal be made? a fair and balanced debate is coming up. lots of talk how the united states will eventually be world's top oil producer. that is what some say. there are questions why it is taking so long. those stories and breaking news all "happening now." jenna: well, it is a little unbelievable, but there is lot of twists and turns in this scandal we've been following so closely surrounding former cia chief and now others. hi, everybody. glad to have you with us. i'm jenna lee. rick: happy tuesday. i'm rick folbaum in for jon. controversy over the timeline of events over the petraeus investigation with members of congress wanting to know why the fbi didn't notify them and the white house until just recently when it began months ago. that investigation far from over. fbi searching the home of petraeus's alleged mistress, paula broadwell. after david petraeus resigned his post as america's top sp
the tone of speaker boehner's remarks was very good. i also want to see what the substance was. what i do know is that different people heard this remark and interpret it in very different ways. grover norquist said he thought it was a good statement by speaker boehner, and other people who think we need to generate additional revenues to have a deficit reduction plan also say he made a good statement. it would be good to know exactly what he is talking about. >> how about for you? the whole premise of tax cuts, as we talked about the last 24 hours, is to eliminate deductions and bring down rates. that is what happened in 1986. >> i am talking about, what is our starting point in terms of the rates? what are we negotiating from? are we negotiating down from 35% or from 39%? i want to emphasize this point -- simpson-bowles, go look at it. they assume the amount of revenue that you would achieve if you allow the tax rate to go up. their tax reform plan is built off an assumption that you will get the amount of revenue as if he started at 39% and went down. they begin with what they call the
back and forth. you had boehner's position from the -- >> i don't want to anger the viewers, you but i think they're looking at obama's words the same way they look it at the polls with the kind of sense of here's what i want to believe. >> if they lose, do they go along with that and say we will accept that or do they push it over the fiscal cliff. you have people on the right and the left who are saying go over. >> in the press conference yesterday, my read of what obama said was we're raising the rates and we're put a structure for eliminating entitlements. >> correct. but if we're talking about rates, if you were playing joe, you would hear that the argument would be that this will never actually work. republicans won't go loochialon it. so some people were suggesting maybe there is a way to do 35% and get rid of deductions. >> but remember was it geithner on -- today is thursday. so this would have been tuesday. he said people are diluting themselves to think we can get where we need to get with loopholes. and i don't know about the right max, but my understanding is i don't think
, the president is meeting with john boehner, the first face-to-face talk. in december 2010, you called your plan the moment of truth. almost two years later, but moment are we at now? >> i think this is the magic moment. a moment when our generation has the chance to really do something about this problem that we created. it is our generation that got us into this mess. i think we have a good chance. yet a second term democrats president who has come out and said he is willing to put entitlements on the table. big deal. you have a speaker, a republican speaker who really gets it. he understands the deaths of the problems they face. he has said the are going to put revenues on the table. big move. we got half the members of the senate already saying they will support a balanced plan. which makes a lot of sense. we have the business community lined up firmly for doing something. most importantly, we have the fiscal cliff. where if we go over it, we are going to face the most predictable economic crisis in history. for all of us in here, it is also the most avoidable. i think this is the magic mome
driving the decisions made here. i think citing i believe speaker boehner, it's fair to say that the president also believes we don't -- he's not looking to box himself in or box other people's ideas out. as we approach the conversation that will be in on friday. >> suggest to the meeting that just took place they might have to give up more than they would like? >> i think the president has made very clear that everyone, throughout this process, not just in this past week since the election, but for some time now, that the whole point of compromise is that nobody gets to achieve their maximalist position. that was the approach we took throughout negotiations in 2011 and it's the principle the president has based his own proposals on. if you look at, again, the programs that the president has already cut through legislation he signed into law, if you look at the savings he's willing to enact as part of his plan, it demonstrates a willingness to give so that you can meet your negotiating partner somewhere in the middle and reach a deal. >> you don't have any specific -- >> i d
boehner immediately saying he generally supportive of trying to close the loop holes. do you see that as raising taxes? >> what boehner said and in the republican position since republican we should reduce rates have economic growth many of which are put in by obama for the solyndra green-type energy programs. let's bring the rates down. boehner was clear he wanted increase revenues it is not a tax increase to put more americans at work. if our recovery was growing the rate reagans did more americans would be at work. in terms of raising revenue which boehner grew about. if you grew the economy at reagan levels instead of two percent and obama and french levels, just growing faster and do that for a decade, the federal government gets trillions in taxes. we could undo the damage by having higher growth. >> gretchen: that's the difference in ideology. raise it to 3#.9 percent x. replace the alternative minimum tax with the buffet and raise the state tax and long-term capitol gains from 15-20. where do you think that those four points will go in negotiations with the republicans? >
boehner used a post-election conference call with rank-and-file republicans to plead for patience, to give him running room to negotiate with the president who did just win reelection. mandate or not. >> let's discuss what's going on in our "strategy session." joining us are donna brazile and alex castellanos. that bill crystal comment, go ahead, raise the taxes on the wealthy, maybe more than $250,000, maybe $1 million a year. he says, what's wrong with that? half of them voted for obama anyhow in hollywood, he makes that point. >> i think the big thing is republicans want to plant as much seed corn into the economy so it will grow. but here's how the republicans in the house are looking at this thing. i've talked with a few of them this week. this is not about a deal to raise taxes. we already have a deal to raise taxes. when these tax cuts expire, taxes will go up for everybody. what we're talking about is a deal to get some of the money back. >> but no one wants the taxes to go up for the middle tax, for people making less than $250,000 a year. everyone agrees they should have the curr
they will or will not go on this issue. house speaker john boehner says he believes they can reach a deal. >> i don't think anyone, on either side of the aisle under estimates the difficulty that faces us. but i do think the spirit of cooperation that you've seen over the last week from myself and my team, from democrats across the aisle, from the president, have created an atmosphere where i think that, i'm, i remain optimistic. i was born with a glass half-full. >> what i have told leaders privately as well as publicly, is that we can not afford to extend the bush tax cuts for the wealthy. what we can do is make sure that middle class taxes don't go up. 98% of americans are not going to see their taxes go up. 97% of small businesses are not going to see their taxes go up. if we get that in place, we are actually removing half of the fiscal cliff. martha: doug schoen, former pollster to president bill clinton. monica crowley, radio talk show host. both are fox news contributors and what i'm hearing through both of those quotes we're pretty much where we were the last time that the president and john boehn
in the washington post this morning. a picture of president obama and john boehner. the upbeat tone was a dramatic shift from recent years when the president and a gop fortified by anti-government activists clashed repeatedly over spending and taxes. if he were to go to yesterday's new york times, they have a listening are at least pictures of the key leaders that will be involved in this process. to show you where they stand specifically on some issues, here is the president saying he will reject any bill that extends tax cuts for the wealthy. here is john boehner who has said raising tax rates is unacceptable and a new revenue should be generated by economic growth spurred by a simpler tax code and that closes loopholes and and deductions. there are some other leaders involved in this project. what do you think they will be able to do to keep the fiscal cliff from happening by the end of the year? that meeting taking place at the white house. here is some video from it. if you are looking at that again and you want to wait and on this topic, you can call in. your confidence on congressional lead
connell, who's the senate minority leader, he's taking a tougher stand than even boehner. let's listen to both of those positions. >> let's be clear. an opening bid of $1.6 trillion in new taxes just isn't serious. it's more than simpson/bowles or any other bipartisan commission has called for. it's been unanimously rejected in the house and senate. it's twice as much as the white house agreed to last summer during the debt ceiling talks, and looked at in the context of the spending cuts yet to be implemented, it amounts to about 20 cents in cuts for every new dollar in tax hikes. in other words, no cuts at all. it's a joke. a joke. >> we right away say 98% of americans are not going to see their taxes go up. 97% of small businesses are not going to see their taxes go up. if we get that in place, we are actually removing half of the fiscal cliff. half of the danger to our economy is removed by that single step. >> okay. so is it a joke, or as the democrats would say, the math isn't adding up? let's look at the issue of deficit reduction. the democrats say the -- let's say if you cut loopholes
heard from speaker john boehner and mitch mcconnell on their position because they will all be here at the white house on friday to get these talks kick started. melissa: thank you so much. lori: estevez houston with a news conference, president obama will be sitting down with a ceos to talk about solutions to avoid the fiscal cliff. rich edson in washington as well the latest developments. >> good afternoon. wrapping in the 2:00 hour, leaves the east room, here to the west wing where he will meet with about a dozen ceos, half of whom are part of the export counselor, jobs council, or they are very familiar with the white house, in particular this white house. the discussion is of the opening offer on taxes, $1.6 trillion in tax increases, most of that tax increases on rate and deductions for those earning more than $250,000 per year. republicans wanted an overhaul of the entire tax system and create revenue through an overhaul of the tax code mostly by getting rid of deductions. saying no to higher rates. that is the risk the treasury secretary shot down. >> there's a lot of magica
tax increases one way or another. bill: do you think that flies in the u.s. house? does john boehner have the votes to match that? >> the white house figures he will portray himself as the chapel yofnt middle class and the republicans are going out for the rift and he feels he can largely beat hem into submission. when they sit down to the bargaining table they might make some changes but he will want to come out of these negotiations as having largely won them and leaving scraps for the republicans. what the republicans have to hit back with is the way you increase revenues is by having rising incomes. you don't get that by higher taxes on a weakening economy. bill: the president plans to open the talks using his most recent budget proposal. wasn't that the budget that got zero votes in the senate? >> he's going to exploit it for all it's worth. you could come to an agreement using bowles and simpson and reducing rates so everyone declares victory. you have got more revenue but the rates don't go up. but i don't think the president is interested in that. if you had normal people doi
to be here. thank you so much. >> thanks so much. >>> a fiscal cliff, it's coming and if obama and boehner don't compromise, could mean economic disaster, but some lawmakers say hey, there's no rush. actually, we should go over that fiscal cliff. i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels speeds relief to your worst cold symptoms plus has a decongestant for your stuffy nose. thanks. that's the cold truth! time for citi price rewind. because your daughter really wants that pink castle thing. and you really don't want to pay more than you have to. only citi price rewind automatically searches for the lowest price. and if it finds one, you get refunded the difference. just use your citi card and register your purchase online. have a super sparkly day! ok. [ male announcer ] now all you need is a magic carriage. citi price rewind. buy now. save later. >>> people are counting down the days until the nation goes off the so-called fiscal cliff. the tax cuts and cu
the house speaker john boehner, the president, you can see him sitting there. let's listen to the president. thank them for their time and i think we're all aware that we have some urgent business to do. we have to make sure that taxes don't go up on middle class families and that our economy remains strong and creating jobs and that's an agenda that democrats and republicans and independents, people all across the country share. our challenge is to make sure that we are able to cooperate together, work together, find some common ground, make some tough compromises and build some consensus to do the people's business and what folks are looking for and i think all of us agree on this is they want to see that we are focused on them and not focused on our politics. my hope is this is a fruitful process where we will come to agreement that will reduce our deficit in a balanced way. i want to thank the leadership for coming and with that wool get to work. thank you very much, everybody. wait, wait, excuse me, there is actually one other point that i wanted to make. that is that my understanding
of congress. republicans john boehner and mitch mcconnell and democrats nancy pelosi and harry reid. >> we had a very constructive meeting with the president to talk about america's fiscal problem. >> we all know something has to be done. >> it was good. i feel confident that a solution may be in sight. >> we're prepared to put revenue on the table, provided we fix the real problem. >> tax hikes and spending cuts could go into effect simultaneously if no deal is reached on the fiscal cliff by the end of the year, both sides have said they are willing to compromise. house speaker boehner says republicans realize that neither side will get everything it wants. >>> exactly one week after he abruptly resigned as head of the cia, david petraeus was back on capitol hill. he met yesterday behind closed doors to brief lawmakers on the september 11th attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi. according to lawmakers who were there, petraeus now says the attack was an act of terrorism and not the result of a spontaneous anti-western demonstration as initially reported. four americans died in the benghazi
that siri has to offer me. >> stephanie: i think dictionary.com backs me up on john boehner. >> there are pronunciations i've had to look up. i don't know everything off the top of my head. >> she knows how to pronounce myanmar. >> i know how to use the googles, too. >> stephanie: all right. here she is with all of her fancy, highfalutin words. >> paul ryan lost on the national ticket but won back his seat in congress. he will be back at the table of negotiations continuing over tax increases and spending cuts. paul ryan will continue to head up the house budget committee and john boehner expects him to help as the two parties try to come to a compromise that would stave off the fiscal cliff generate revenue and reduce the deficit. the hope is that ryan can help bring around fellow conservatives. as senator patty murray points out to the "new york times," ryan will have to be willing to listen and compromise if he's going to stick to his former budget proposals, it will be a long winter. americans just vote
there to some degree was house speaker john boehner. ms. mcconnell digging his heels at democrats in the senate digging their heels and the president appears to be doing the same as well, as we will have to see what happens. dagen: what has been the reaction the corporate bond market? this thread has gotten wider, but is that because the yield on the 10-year is falling? >> we have seen some selling take place, corporate are linked to equities to some degree, we've all seen the trade-off they place in equities. there have been several new issues come into the marketplace over the last several days. if you look at a couple of weeks ago they were substantially oversubscribed. if you look at one place where the market has benefited from all of this comic has been muniz. units have reached all-time record lows. a lot of demand take place, certainly all this discussion about tax increases have gotten people worried. also another impact as well, a series of ballot measures that took place last election day, and the ones that were passed were generally bond market friendly. for example in california th
with both speaker boehner and president obama coming out talkital talking about the fiscal cliff. this week we'll see a round of negotiations capped off by a meeting at the white house between congressional leaders and executive branch coming up on friday. where are they going to end up? there are a lot of solutions kicking around town. the final deal is probably going to end up looking like at least one of these different proposals. let me walk you through four of them here so you get a sense of where we might be headed starting with the simpson bowles plan. they would cap the mortgage industry deduction at $400,000. they would also tax capital gains and dividends as ordinary income and they would have the employer sponsored health care exclusion phased out. that would be a big tax increase there. another plan that's floating around out there, you would see mortgage interest deduction limited to $25,000 of interest. capital gains and dividends here also taxed as ordinary income and the state and local tax deduction would be repealed. the gang of six plan is another one that's kicking aroun
on that famous fiscal cliff. and speaker john boehner's getting in on the love. >> 2013 should be the year to begin to solve our debt through tax reform and entitlement reform. this framework can lead to common ground. because if there was a mandate in this election, it was a mandate to work together to do what's in the best interest of our country. >> but any fundamental reform is going to require republicans to break their signed pledge against raising taxes. we'll discuss that next on "now." hungry for the best? it's eb. want to give your family the very best in taste, freshness, and nutrition? it's eb. want to give them more vitamins, omega 3s, and less saturated fat? it's eb. eggland's best eggs. eb's. the only eggs that make better taste and better nutrition... easy. eggland's best eggs. better taste. better nutrition. better eggs. it's eb. >>> let's have a serious debate. don't scream and yell. you know what, it won't kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires. it really won't, i don't think. i don't see why republicans don't take obama's offer to freeze taxes f
to december 29th and dictator obama forced this on us. is that the game mcconnell and boehner play here? >> i think they know that game won't play well. they have to play it. everyone has to take a sacrifice here, and when you do the numbers with america's finances to keep the entitlements entact, if slightly different from today, to keep social security intact and get the economy back and growing, everyone has to take a little bit of a hit, whether it's the private equity guy with his carried interest exclusion and the $750,000 home morn tax deduction, which is completely absurd. that doesn't help the middle class. they all have to happen. if everyone is -- you saw bob corker last week or over the weekend. there are a lot of sensible people out there. i think sensible minds will prevail. this is just a fiscal cliff. it pushes it off to july 4th to be patriotic with an agreement and framework to work towards a big deal. it is only this artificial construct we're talking about now. what we need to get for everybody to be happy and the markets to be happy and the chinese and the japanese and th
. he and house speaker john boehner were close to a deal last year and people chose his way last week tuesday weigh found out that the majority of people agree with my approach. democrats, independence and some republicans. now we need a majority in congress to listen. >> mitch mcconnell didn't give mr. obama a mandate. they just gave him more time' and speaker boehner still objects to higher tax rates, shepard. >> shepard: republicans here and there are changing their tunes on a lot of things. bill kristol the conservative commentator is one of them, he says raise taxes on the millionaires it won't kill us that shook the g.o.p. establishment. he supports the president's own deficit reduction commission taxes and spending cuts which mr. obama himself turned down. crystal's comments came on "fox news sunday." >> you know what? it won't kill the country if we raise taxes a little bit on millionaires. it really won't. i don't understand why republicans don't take obama's offers to freeze taxes on everybody below 250,000. >> since polls indicate most people favor phasing out he upper inco
that john boehner had with all of you folks saying get in line, we actually have to have a record to run on in 2014. we can't be obstructionists anymore. the american people have spoken in the election, let's do something. newt gingrich, former speaker of the house, failed presidential candidate, giving advice to the republican party, i would advise the republican party to take that with a huge salt lick. >> yeah. >> ashley, you were on the trail covering romney and there for the last days of his candidacy. do you sense now there is supposedly a come to jesus moment happening within the republican party, that the moderate wing will have a strong voice? >> well, i mean one thing you're seeing before the election, before the president won re-election and seemed like leaders in congress were going to be more willing to compromise, governor romney was sounding a bipartisan theme even during the election. even before, some people would argue the president has a mandate, some wouldn't, bipartisanship was what was persuading the most voters on the trail. after the election there's probably goin
speaker john boehner. senator collins told the newshour today that she's optimistic lawmakers can still strike a deal and stave off the spending cuts. >> so this has to be done carefully. i think the president's right that -- and i've said this for a long time -- that we have to look at both revenues and spending. but there eds to be compromise on both sides. >> woodruff: but mcconnell said the president needs to put a proposal on the table if any agreement is going to pass. >> the time for the president to lead is now. that means offering a concrete plan that takes into account the fact that half the congo poses tax hikes. >> woodruff: on the democratic side house minority leader nancy pelosi rejected calls by some in the party who have argued for letting the country go over the cliff to get a better deal. >> i want you to b disabused any notion that there's any widespread thought that it would be a good as a country for us to go over the cliff. we want an agreement. we want an agreement. >> woodruff: law mangers will have to try to differences on the fiscal cliff and other issues with
are already digging in their heels. speaker boehner, senator minority leader mitch mcconnell, paul ryan. all of them saying they will fight the president on taxes. all of them saying the president doesn't have a mandate. but president obama has something to say about that. >> i have one mandate. i have a mandate to help middle class families and families that are working hard to try to get into the middle class. that's my mandate. >> this is a clear message. it's what americans voted for a week ago. are you sure you want this fight, republicans? democrat from pennsylvania chuck fatah and ezra klein, msnbc policy analyst. he's writing about the fight over taxes today and the piece is called "the big question: how, not whether, to raise taxes." thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you. >> good to be here. >> congressman, do you think republicans will make a deal or is this 2010 with the tea party all over again? >> well, what the public needs to understand is the income tax system is not fair to them. there is a report done by the congress each year by the joint committee on taxation. sh
. the fact of the matter is that john boehner might not be able to get a majority of his caucus to vote for any tax plan to put together with president obama. the democrats have to deliver and nancy is part of that. >> let us listen she was asked about her age she did not like that. >> some of your colleagues privately say they york decision to stay on prohibits the party from having a younger leadership. and hurts the party in the long term. >> what is your response? >> (audiaence gasps) >> discrimination! >> she says that the entire chinook's. gray.. for 72 years old. --she looks great-472 years old. and follow michael yaki. a half after 72 years old, she looks great. >> cloudy, cool, late evening rainfall. showers are of the day and the same on tuesday. the storm to the south is moving to the bay area. and all these clouds associated with the enormity storms but this is a rare chance that we could see this coming up from the south. it could start in the south bay first which is rare. warmer with the additional cloud coverage. mainly in the 40's with 50s for the bayshore. into the af
rejected the mitt romney, john boehner solution for tax reform. >> what i will not do is to have a process that is vague, that says we're going to sort of, kind of raise revenue through dynamic scoring or closing loopholes that have not been identified. and the reason i won't do that is because i don't want to find ourselves in a position six months from now or a year from now, where lo and behold, the only way to close the deficit is to sock it to middle class families. >> now, that is the classiest way i have ever seen anybody say, you know what, somebody's got to pick up the bar tab, boys. this is what president obama ran against in the presidential election. mitt romney's approach to tax reform was, trust me. the american public wanted specifics. and president obama continued to give specifics today, but the economy wasn't the only thing on the president's mind today. earlier in the day, here's another development. ambassador to the united nations, susan rice came under fire from republican senators. senators john mccain and lindsey graham, back at it, trying to trump up the ambassador
-- john boehner can turn around-- they man a bit chastened right now, but 235 house republicans were also re-elected, so i don't know why the-- why the washington environment is a whole l different. >> the other thing the president said was i'm not up for reelection again. so they look ahead, they see 2010 and think if taxes do go up for the middle class, it will be john boehner, and the republicans to take the blame. >> well, that may be but who is it going to play that kind of bluffing game with the debt ceiling because that's when you really risk tremendous market reactions and peril. i know you talked about david petraeus, and the whole foreign policy issue last night on charlie, martha, but do you-- t me ask you again, do you take seriously the notion that john kerry could be defense secretary? >> i think that was a trial balloon. >> you do? >> i 19, clearly both of those stories were trial balloons. president obama, obviously, took it a little further, quite a bit further today talking about susan rice. it was no longer a trial balloon. but i think john kerry-- you know, is that a c
of that party up there. >>> next, john boehner was re-elected yesterday for a second term as speaker of the house but georgia congressman louis go mert, a charter member of the birther crowd had a different candidate in mind. who do you think he nominated? newt gingrich for speaker right now. you don't technically actually have to be a house member to be speaker of the house, but it's been the rule historically. by the way, boehner's word to go mert after the word, louie, i love you, too. after the election, we heard certain ceos were threatening to fire employees if president obama wob the election. some are going through with it. bobt murray, ceo of the coal company laid off 156 employees the day after the election. john schneider ceo the papa john's pizza says he will be cutting employee hours to avoid costs associated with obama care. finally, john met, ceo of several denny's franchises says he will add a 5% surcharge to customers' bills to offset the cost of obama care. you don't want to pay extra, he said tip the server less to offset the cost. what a sweetheart. >>> up next, n
want to take you back to the live camera positions. this is outside of the white house and john boehner taking the microphone and let's listen in. >> by significant spending cuts. and while we're going to continue to have revenue on the table, it is going to be incumbent for my colleagues to show the american people that we're serious about cutting spending and solving our fiscal dilemma. i believe that we can do this and avert the fiscal cliff that right in front of us today. >> this isn't the first time we have dealt with these issues. we feel we understand what the problem is. we felt very -- i feel very good about what we were able to talk about in there. we have a cornerstones of being able to work something out. we're both going to have to give up some of the things that we know are a problem. and so it is like when we arrive at a point where we all know something has to be done, there is no more let's do it some other time or we're going to do it now and i think there is we feel very comfortable with each other and this isn't something we're going to wait until the last day of de
points. >> yes, i ran fast, mandy. earlier today, john boehner, the speaker of the house, spoke. the markets spiked. as you hear this sound bite, we're going to show you the dow intraday, what it did, and where you see the spike. it's a spike of more than 100 points. that's when speaker boehner spoke. listen to this. >> i believe that we can do this and avert the fiscal cliff that's right in front of us today. >> is this really what led to today's midday turn around, or was it something else? let's talk about that. quincy crosby joins us. mark spellman and kevin carone. quincy, is it that simple? they came out, they used the word constructive, framework, corner stone, all those positive words, and the market took off. >> absolutely. i was watching the body language when they finished up. they walked together. they didn't separate. the market kept making gains. it was that immediate. >> mark, do you agree? >> yeah, i think it was important. we've been looking for good news. the fact that everyone's heels aren't dug in quite as badly, it's good news and what otherwise has been a b
budget. the congress has a copy of it. i do think it would be helpful if speaker boehner would spell out his approach to revenue. he has said some positive things, but we have not seen any substance to his proposals and his remarks. so i think that would be helpful to get that out in the public as we move forward. >> what about the fact that people like jeff sessions who is a ranking member on the budget committee is asking that efforts be made to have these negotiations open to the american public so they can see what's going on? >> as i said, i think the ideas that are all exchanged as part of this process should be open to the public and the president was very clear as to what his revenue proposal is. it's on the super net. you can actually go see it. speaker boehner has said he's open to raising revenue. he has not told us or the american public exactly how he would do it. so i do think it would be useful if he would spell it out, then we would have two clear proposals on the table to compare. >> well, it's going to be a long negotiation, it seems, tough negotiation to work things th
in d.c. i'm actually sighing the senate and housework. if obama, president obama and boehner cannot come up with a plan the past two years, you have senators, a gang of six actually working on a plan b. so if boehner and obama can't come up with something that can go through the house you have a bipartisan group of senators working together, even bob corker from tennessee is working on a bill that will help simplify the code. if plan a doesn't work, plan b will work because at the end. day the american people have spoken, they kept the senate the same, the house virtually the same and the same president, so they're giving them a second chance to actually have our system work. and if working a bipartisan way, it will work. >> jamie: doug, the president, having not submitted a budget that passed in the first four years, at this point are there numbers out there that anybody has seen that proves that the tax increases and the spending cuts will avert a fiscal cliff? >> well, i think the immediate challenge is to avoid what's been called sequestration which is the process in place when
. >>> if the fiscal cliff negotiations seem familiar, we've seen the movie before. president obama and speaker boehner were unable to reach a debt deal in 2001. one of the by-products of the inaction was a downgrade of the country's credit rating. could this happen again? and what would it mean for the nation's financial standing across the globe? joining me is jared bernstein, senior fellow at the center for budget policies and priorities. good to see you again, when it comes to the credit rating, we've seen it happen before. all three credit rating agencies are saying you've got to put a deal together in washington, if you guys in washington don't get it done, we're going to downgrade your credit. >> we've seen this movie before. it's not a good movie. i will remind viewers that the last time standard and poors did take us down a notch, it actually didn't hurt our ability to finance our debt at all. so that was kind of blown off by the markets, but this time could be different. there's one interesting wrinkle here. i do believe that if the political discourse, which is actually sounding a little bet
not having the same level of influence in terms of those races. before hand, speaker boehner had a hard time getting some of his more conservative members to buy in to certain concrete hiatt -- compromises. going forward, we will have to see if the tea party conservatives will seem to have the same support. the president now has the upper hand and when he talks to speaker boehner he will have to take that message back and he gets a little bit more behind him. >> week and a shop with a meeting between the leaders and the white house. what is the dynamic? >> it will be very interesting to see. hopefully we will hear from them exactly what their conversation was with the president. it is unlikely that we're going to see a detailed agreement on specific issues. are we going to hear about tax breaks or how entitlement reform is going to happen in the deal? on not sure. these figures are going to be out there. they're all going to be scrambling to set the tone in the way that they want to set it. of they will have discussions like the democratic leaders also say let these are the areas where we ma
for that and don't want it and, two, can john boehner rally a republicans who doesn't want to raise taxes? to that end it's unbelievable. the election was only 13 days ago. >> i know. >> there's been a lot of piling on mitt romney in those 13 days. i want to play something tea party republican senator had to say. this was at the federalist society about the election. let's play it. >> inevitably there are these mandarins in politics who give the voice don't show any contrast. don't rock the boat. so by the third debate, i'm pretty certain mitt romney actually french kissed barack obama. >> okay, let's put aside that image. >> yes. >> this suggests that, you know, these are the manndarins of politics, don't show any contrast, don't rock the boat,s so you have the ted cruzs of the world coming in and the boehners saying we node to caught deal on this, reform on immigration, talk about gay marriage. we need a reformation within the party. is that what the base of the party wants? and if they don't want that, if ted cruz is the voice for that party, how do you get there? >> well, the base doe
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